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Gay waitress got bible verse (Leviticus 20:13) for tip in North Carolina


Gay waitress got bible verse (Leviticus 20:13) for tip in North Carolina

I read with sadness in my local paper today (Fresno Bee) that a waitress in North Carolina was left a message on her bill for the table that she was serving and in case you are not familiar with the scripture then let me show you what it said…

Leviticus 20:10 (ESV) “If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. 11 If a man lies with his father’s wife, he has uncovered his father’s nakedness; both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. 12 If a man lies with his daughter-in-law, both of them shall surely be put to death; they have committed perversion; their blood is upon them. 13 If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. 14 If a man takes a woman and her mother also, it is depravity; he and they shall be burned with fire, that there may be no depravity among you. 15 If a man lies with an animal, he shall surely be put to death, and you shall kill the animal. 16 If a woman approaches any animal and lies with it, you shall kill the woman and the animal; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. 17 “If a man takes his sister, a daughter of his father or a daughter of his mother, and sees her nakedness, and she sees his nakedness, it is a disgrace, and they shall be cut off in the sight of the children of their people. He has uncovered his sister’s nakedness, and he shall bear his iniquity. 18 If a man lies with a woman during her menstrual period and uncovers her nakedness, he has made naked her fountain, and she has uncovered the fountain of her blood. Both of them shall be cut off from among their people. 19 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your mother’s sister or of your father’s sister, for that is to make naked one’s relative; they shall bear their iniquity. 20 If a man lies with his uncle’s wife, he has uncovered his uncle’s nakedness; they shall bear their sin; they shall die childless. 21 If a man takes his brother’s wife, it is impurity. He has uncovered his brother’s nakedness; they shall be childless.

I give the whole paragraph in scripture in submission to give the full context of what was said. Please bear in mind that I was not at that restaurant that day and I am going on a newspaper report of what happened but it does seem quite clear cut what happened.

So what actually happened then?

Looks like a well-known local same sex equal rights campaigner in the area of LBGT rights was serving at her day job and these customers took exception to their waitress. I am assuming of course that there had been previous interactions or previous knowledge of each other as it does not seem probable that in the hour that they would have had been able to ascertain in a casual conversation setting where the waitresses preferences lay in that area. For me something is missing!

Alexandra Judd works at Zada Janes in Charlotte’s Plaza Midwood in Charlotte North Carolina and I am sure she is getting her fifteen minutes of fame and let’s not forget she is a campaigner for “equal rights” as far as same sex marriages in a state that this is a contentious issue so there is a bias in making this story go as far and wide to help her own campaigning efforts, however she does also state in the article (direct quote) “I’ve had a guest leave me a pamphlet to their church as a tip one time, but I didn’t feel as if they were being hateful towards me. The ladies that came in were very rude, and would hardly talk to me – but I never expected this.” So it does appear that these ladies knew who the waitress was and wanted to make a point from the get go.

You can be right in your message but wrong in how you deliver it!

The patrons of that particular eatery are technically correct in their quotation of scripture in that the bible does in fact say what they wanted it to say I would however question the heart behind what they were trying to do. I say this because if someone was to make a request of me to ask what the bible states about homosexual unions, I would point them towards this and a few other verses. (Leviticus 18:22, 1st Corinthians 6:9-11, Romans 1:26-28, 1st Timothy 1:10-11, Genesis 19:1-38 and that’s just the ones that deal with just homosexuality, there are many more that deal with sexually immoral) In that scenario I would be giving a defense of the faith (1st Peter 3:15) that I hold dear to my heart. (Yes I am also writing with a bias)

Whilst they are correct in what they say, I do not condone or endorse how they put their message across. I say that and I am not so much calling out those women because, let’s face it I do not know them and I am likely never to meet them. I am calling out ALL CHRISTIANS in how they deal with situations like this. Let’s look at how Jesus dealt with a woman who was accused of sexual immorality…

John 8:2 (ESV) Early in the morning he came again to the temple. All the people came to him, and he sat down and taught them. 3 The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery, and placing her in the midst 4 they said to him, “Teacher, this woman has been caught in the act of adultery. 5 Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say?” 6 This they said to test him, that they might have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground. 7 And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8 And once more he bent down and wrote on the ground. 9 But when they heard it, they went away one by one, beginning with the older ones, and Jesus was left alone with the woman standing before him. 10 Jesus stood up and said to her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” 11 She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said, “Neither do I condemn you; go, and from now on sin no more.”

When this verse is often looked at the verse “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.” Is often the quoted part and as you would expect I quote the whole account in order for you to have appropriate context. Jesus could see the hearts of these people and seen that despite the sin in their own hearts, they wanted to make an example of this woman for the sin she had committed. Jesus knew each one of them, regardless of how holy they looked was hiding something so he asked the question more in a manner to teach the accusers a question as well as to show mercy to the lady. The last part should also be quoted but it rarely is “Neither do I condemn you; go, and from now on sin no more.” This conversation shows to me at least that Jesus was not condoning her lifestyle and commanded her to stop the sin that she was in. Jesus also commanded the religious people in the book of Mark…

Mark 12:28 (ESV) And one of the scribes came up and heard them disputing with one another, and seeing that he answered them well, asked him, “Which commandment is the most important of all?” 29 Jesus answered, “The most important is, ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. 30 And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ 31 The second is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.” 32 And the scribe said to him, “You are right, Teacher. You have truly said that he is one, and there is no other besides him. 33 And to love him with all the heart and with all the understanding and with all the strength, and to love one’s neighbor as oneself, is much more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.” 34 And when Jesus saw that he answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And after that no one dared to ask him any more questions.

Jesus was correct in what he said all of the commandments hang on those two, the first relates to the first four commands of the 10 commandments that relate to man’s relationship to God and the last relates to the last six commandments is how we relate to our fellow man. We are to love one another, Jesus went on to say in John that is “how you would know you were my disciples” (John 13:34-35) and in this interaction I don’t see much love to the waitress.

Catch more bees with honey than vinegar

This type of slapping people in the face with scripture is neither effective nor helpful. I do not know the hearts of the people who were eating that day or the hearts of the waitress and I have no idea whether the waitress will ever come to know Jesus or not, that knowledge is well above my Christian “pay grade” however I feel that this whole episode has created a negative feeling towards Jesus in this whole area and beyond.

What I see happening in this area is that the ones who support her campaign will rally round the waitress and the restaurant will either get a surge of business or a decline. Personally I hope it is neither and people eat there if they want to and don’t if they don’t.

Here is the part where I may get a little feedback and to be fair I am not all that fussed about that but I have to ask the question based on these ladies actions… “How did this introduce the gospel of Jesus Christ to the lady they made a ham fisted attempt at introducing scripture to?” Do you think that she will be flocking to her nearest church building at the “love” she received? Does this interaction move her closer to a relationship with Jesus or further away? Not just that lady but everyone who reads this.

“Bible Bashing”

Using scripture to cast a burden on someone who is not living in a relationship with Jesus or telling someone in a threatening manner “I will pray for you” really does not help and constitutes what I call bible bashing, it is trying to beat strangers up with a word that they neither agree with and meeting them with a spirit of conflict that rarely ends well. I am not referring to street evangelists who do a wonderful job and will often times step away if someone is not interested, I am speaking to the Christian Pharisee who Jesus would probably have had words for if he was on his mission today.

I love evangelizing, I do think however if you are going to broach a tricky subject like this that you do so when you have a relationship with that people and I say this from a mindset of being someone who has friends who are homosexual. They know I am a Christian and they also know of the great love I have for them, if they wanted to come to my church I would take them there and I pray for them but in a spirit of love because I genuinely want what is best for them. I know that they may or may not come to a relationship with Jesus but I want to be able to be in a position to promote that and not be a detractor.

The bible is clear on God’s view on this subject, the bible is also clear on a whole bunch of other subjects too and I wish we were as zealous on some of those subjects as we are here.

These are just my thoughts please take them as you will!

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God gave them up


God gave them up

This is a series in the book of Romans, for the home page in our study and to see other studies then please click here. My aim is to go through the Book of Romans as the LORD wills.

Romans 1:26 (ESV) For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

In our last article we spoke about how they had exchanged the truth for the lie. They stopped looking to God and began on a road to their own self destruction; in this passage it shows one of the ways that this was the case. They chose sin which was from their own desires.

Now let me be clear, I believe that people who have sinned all have the same opportunity to come to God and that I don’t view one sin more grievous than another. As stated previously, Paul is writing this letter from Corinth, which was basically Amsterdam and Las Vegas of its time, anything goes and if you were called a “Corinthian” it was a major insult as they were questioning your morality.

These people were in sexual immorality and had fallen into idol worship also. What a combination huh? They had chosen to not go with God’s plan for marriage as one man and one woman and went after their own kind (lesbianism) this did not mean that the men were exempt also, they had done likewise and entered into same sex relationships too.

Now I am not going to go all Westboro Baptist here (God does not hate gay people, he hates the sin) and start screaming at people, but this passage of scripture does show God’s will for marriage is reiterated as one man and one woman. Paul calls it “dishonorable” (or vile) passions, he speaks to a culture where this has been commonplace for at least 200 years, in verifiable history there were many Governors in multiple relationships with both male and female partners, sometimes at the same time and sometimes as separate “relationships” so this had to be addressed as unacceptable for the believers in Rome.

Here is where I am going to get personal, if you are reading this and have been in the gay lifestyle, if you are still in the gay lifestyle or if you are in a promiscuous lifestyle where physical attraction is like a throwaway toy. It is not to late for you. Despite what the world may say about you and despite your thoughts about yourself there is still hope. There is someone who will love you more than any partner could, his name is Jesus Christ.

Jesus will accept you regardless of your history and regardless of the consequences you have reaped because of your actions. Many pastors or teachers will make the logical connection between STD’s and promiscuity, that is an easy link to make, however it is not just a same sex issue.

Yes there is disease involved with this type of sin, but there is also emptiness involved in that type of damaging relationship where the “hook up” is the highlight and everything else is just a hassle. In many cases this is what happens in many bars up and down the country where “hook up” is the reason you go there.

Of course the “hook up” culture is not all that goes on in that lifestyle, there are folks who set up as couples, begin relationships and attempt to change things such as the definition of marriage. It is done in a militant fashion and is done in the name of “equal rights” but usually it means nothing of the sort.

I read of a recent LBGT event that has banned “straight” people from attending, not exactly all inclusive I am afraid.

Let us look at the genetics of it from a scientific point of view, if we are using evolution as a blueprint then by definition if the human race was to choose a 100% homosexual then from an evolution standpoint it would render itself extinct within a person’s lifetime. The ability to reproduce would not be there.

I don’t suffer (perhaps suffer is the wrong word as people who are usually living a life of sin, when it is good it is good and if sin was not appealing then it would not be such a struggle) from this sin so I have no idea what someone who has this attraction/deals with this sin/lives this life (choosing my words very carefully as it is a very sensitive issue) is going through. To them it is a case of “who they are attracted to”.

Like anyone caught in a life of sin, these folks need prayer and not condemnation. I would pray for them as fervently as you would for an opposite sex (or straight, dependent on your terminology) couple who are in sin. As said previously, God see’s all rebellion from him, regardless of the flavor of that particular vice.

Gay people are not the enemy; not to be demonized as some higher level of sinner, and they are just like everyone else who needs Jesus! They need love and an opportunity to hear the good news of Jesus Christ and make an educated choice on where they want to spend eternity.

This is a tough passage of scripture because the message has to be delivered in love, there will be some who will not take it that way and that is unfortunate. My heart in writing this is a desire that ALL come to a saving knowledge of Christ Jesus.

It is also tough and difficult because there are emotions involved. I have a few friends who live in the gay lifestyle, they know I love them and I have had them vouch for me on occasions where there has been contention and people have thought I have been attacking the lifestyle.

I pray that this article finds you well, that you are blessed and I would request that you prayerfully consider liking, commenting or sharing this article as the LORD leads